If you'd like to see more, I actually have a video detailing the entire process for determining how strong Super Saiyan God is, it's probably easier then me just typing it all out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c15778Vv0Bg. Then when Raditz was about to finish off Goku and Piccolo was injured, similar scenario as to the last moments of SPC, Radditz read off rage-Gohan's power level as 1370 and climbing. Cell was both serious and not serious while fighting Gohan in his beam struggle. So I'm going to say Gohan hands down is stronger. If Goku knows or suspects a 2x boost is within Gohan's ability it is pretty easy to see why he was so confident in Gohan taking down Cell. Seen it tons of times and I feel like that was Goku's big goal in the hyperbolic time chamber - teach Gohan to actually use that since it was such a huge well of power. Putting into sheer power alone, Gohan would have to be significantly stronger in order to make it an easy fight, but given how close the battle was when he was injured, the gap is certainly far closer than we think. IMO Yes. Imagine how the fight would have went if he was at full strength. This would suggest Cell is at an even 100 with no additional boosts. Gohan beat him when he was already injured. I refuse to believe Half-power Gohan>Super Perfect Cell, especially when Cell was able to damage Gohan as much as he did when Gohan was at FP, and SSJ2 is supposed to be only a 2x multiplier itself. What are your thoughts on this fight? I see no reason to doubt them in this regard. He EFFORTLESSLY beat perfect cell, and while it might have been closer, I still think Gohan takes it pretty damn handily, which, IMO, is why Toriyama had to use that plot device to get rid of one of Gohans arms, another stomp would have been boring as fuck. His lack of experience, his personality, and the fact that Cell has many ways to survive give him a distinct advantage. Before, Cell stood no chance obviously. And, this is a handicap match meaning cell won't just stand there. I also believe that while the attack meant to kill Vegeta LOOKED casual, it was a very devastating blow. What we do know is that Gohan has a power level in his head that is his potential full power. âNormalâ Perfect Cell fought to a near standstill with SSJ Goku, with a bit of an upper hand. Gohan was able to hold in a beam struggle with Cell with one arm for ⦠Gohan believes he's at half power. No one has mentioned how Gohan behaves just before Vegeta charges Cell. Again just my interpretation here but half health Gohan, from a ki perspective, is just a little bit below Super Perfect Cell. It was only because of SPC's arrogance that he put himself into a position where he could be entirely destroyed. Though it was channeled attack, I think this is proof enough that even small attacks can be very powerful. We saw him holding ground at what looked like full exertion against SPC who was genuinely putting in full effort. The moment Goku helped his son the emotional support was able to fill Gohan with enough power to finish cell off. Then his friends got blown away, he was the last stand of protecting the Earth, and Goku was yelling at him that he NEEDED to get that power out. He was also distraught from having Goku (and Trunks) die. This clearly indicates that Gohan was not just slightly more powerful, but so much more powerful that his attack destroyed every single cell of his body. Was Gohan truly at a lower level of power thanks to this injury? But either way, yes, Gohan was certainly underestimating that blast and paid the price for it. Gohan would have to finish Cell off quickly before fatigue sets in to have a chance. If it was more than half his original power again and that's what it took to beat SPC - we can predict that full health Gohan may not have a chance against SPC without others around to push him into unlock-mode. Gohan has a smile on his face and is like "Fuck ya motherfucker we didnt get to finish our fight, i didnt get to finish laying the smackdown on you, but your back so now I can resume kicking your ass." In any case, hopefully you'll enjoy it. Goku was able to bring out more power out of Gohan because he was holding back, either because he was trying to protect the planet or because he was not enraged. I mentioned Perfect Cell because I said that SSJ2 Gohan was many times stronger than Perfect Cell so him even being at half of Gohan's power would be a huge jump. And with a ⦠Using all of that - would a full health Gohan beat SPC in a 1v1 with nobody else around? After gaining a huge boost, returning from the dead and injuring Gohan, Cell's confidence must have been at an all time high. We know him going all out would not have endangered the planet since we've seen much higher power levels fighting on Earth but that's not really worth discussion here. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. SSG Goku BoG_____62,972_____188,915,094,340, SSG Goku BoG+_____108,255_____324,764,150,943, SSG Goku BoG S+_____4,545,991_____13,637,971,698,113, SSG Goku BoG x24_____1,104,481_____3,313,443,396,226, SSG Goku BoG x96_____4,364,858_____13,094,575,471,698, SSG Goku BoG SPC_____62,893_____188,679,245,283, SSG Goku BoG SPC+_____108,176_____324,528,301,887, SSG Goku BoG SPC S+_____4,545,912_____13,637,735,849,057, SSG Goku BoG SPC x24_____1,104,403_____3,313,207,547,170, SSG Goku BoG SPC x96_____4,364,780_____13,094,339,622,642, SSB Goku ResF Low_____7,930,869,527_____23,792,608,579,565,700, SSB Goku ResF+ Low_____23,438,167,497_____70,314,502,491,990,000, SSB Goku ResF S+ Low_____41,332,060,453,008_____123,996,181,359,025,000,000, SSB Goku ResF x24 Low_____2,439,757,142,221_____7,319,271,426,664,300,000, SSB Goku ResF x96 Low_____38,103,979,285,333_____114,311,937,855,999,000,000, SSB Goku ResF SPC Low_____7,911,079,467_____23,733,238,400,379,700, SSB Goku ResF SPC+ Low_____23,404,137,495_____70,212,412,483,683,400, SSB Goku ResF SPC S+ Low_____41,330,630,908,588_____123,991,892,725,762,000,000, SSB Goku ResF SPC x24 Low_____2,439,409,833,472_____7,318,229,500,415,330,000, SSB Goku ResF SPC x96 Low_____38,102,606,700,684_____114,307,820,102,053,000,000. Anything would certainly help. That being said, even a casual blast could do a lot if Gohan was arrogant enough to think he could just tank it or outspeed it. If I am not mistaken, Gohan blew Cell to death after having lost a good deal of energy AND one arm effectively immobilized. I submit that Gohan simply had more power available to him, though they were almost completely even. However, I don't think he had enough power that he would have been able to beat Cell given Cell's skills and regeneration making him a monster when power levels are close. SSJ2 Gohan is leagues ahead of Super Perfect Cell in raw strength and pure power . Gohan is still quite a bit stronger than Super Perfect Cell. Super Perfect Cell has an electrical aura, much like the one Super Saiyan 2's have. It's highly suggested that Gohan might have lost had Vegeta not distracted Cell. Him defending Vegeta as well as he did probably used a bit of chi, and the fact that he lost the use of his arm would also have made chi control a little harder. In a word; yes. It came down to the kamehameha struggle as a last effort. Any additions or things I missed? As for Cell's composure and personality, I do agree that Cell most certainly wanted to break Gohan's spirit, as was his cruel nature. The scouter read Gohan with a 710 power level. PFM18 , Apr 24, 2019 Full Power Perfect Cell - 12. But I'll give my 2 cents anyway... IMO Yes. Who would win in this fight? SSJ2 Gohan is leagues ahead of Super Perfect Cell in raw strength and pure power . The Z-fighters have always been incredibly accurate about their gauges of energy levels. While Gohan just intercepted a blast that would have killed Vegeta. The beam struggle ends up being the best way to win. If ⦠Half power Gohan was absolutely nothing to a Cell who wasn't even serious. Then he blew himself up and returned, gaining a zenkai boost. But I'll disagree that he would defeat Cell in the prompt. And thanks to the rage boost I gave Gohan it makes Gohan's power back then much higher than it would have normally been. This is certainly possible. Keeping in mind the feat of 'lack of fatigue' Cell has - that does make it difficult to tell his effort level but I feel like it is safe to assume at that point he was genuinely wanting to kill Gohan and was putting in as much effort as it would take...which wasn't enough as we know. I have to say that appreciate someone giving this more thought, but found that it didn't make alot of sense. With DBZ power levels liking even multipliers for the most part, let's call it a 2x boost. The killing blow, so to speak, wasn't so much that it made finishing Cell child's play but was enough to tip the balance and obliterate him completely. Though I think arrogance also played a role. My reasoning would probably be because of their auras. Cell was very confident in his victory, but so was Gohan prior to the fight. Honestly, ANY SSJ2 should beat Super Perfect Cell. This suggest Super Perfect Cell certainly had the power to injure him. The problem with this is that a lot of people don't understand that even though when a strong fighter doesn't take a defensive stance and still walks away from a blast without being phased, they are still bracing themselves for the impact by fluctuating their Ki. So you've got a few different phases of Gohan worth talking about in this fight. There are 5 possible avenues for Gotenks strength: Equal to Super Saiyan 3: x400 Equal to Goten Plus Trunks Base Form: x2 (x800 in SS3) Equal to SS Goten Plus SS Trunks: x100 (x40,000 in SS3) Using Dragonball GT Guide on Gogeta, Fusion Dance is dozens of times stronger. Additionally, I believe SPC was incredibly confident (as always) and basking in his new found power. Not to mention that Gohan was perfectly happy to fight Cell one handed until Cell made a Kamehameha; he only was low on chi and wanted to avoid anything involving it. Gohan beat him when he was already injured. SSJ2 Gohan is about 2â3 times stronger than SSJ Goku at the time. So we really need to know how much the boost was. So, determine all the possible answers for Gotenks power and you have your answer. As Tagoma was compared to Ultimate Gohan, we then must determine his strength via Buuiccolo, the strongest fighter Gohan was definitely stronger than. So, to put it basically; Gohan, despite being demoralized from the deaths of Goku and Trunks, losing the use of his arm AND having very little chi left, still managed to defeat Cell. Once he realized even his new power was not enough, he'd IT to somewhere else on the planet and blow it up. SSJ2 Gohan is fast but prone to standing around letting Cell act. However in the latest Dragon Ball Super episode (hopefully there are no spoilers if you watch it) Frieza used it as his attack of choice when facing off in a beam struggle versus Aniliza (the Universe 3 Fusion). Gohan may have had the power to destroy him, but was he truly stronger? Was it only possible because Vegeta distracted him? Vegetaâs blast only distracted Cell enough for Gohan to gain his confidence and get some momentum going. This is certainly possible. Half-health Gohan was slightly less powerful than SPC at least as far as Ki goes but enough to not get instantly vaporized. We can assume that his 100% full health would be enough, but only by a little bit but Gohan still isn't mentally prepared to straight up kill someone yet. SSJ2 Gohan DID use his full power against Cell. Perfect Cell: 900,000,000 (stated in a Daizenshuu that his power is over 900,000,000. Gohan mops the floor with Cell. Indeed it does. Ah, I never considered that angle before. It's just ⦠Although I think the zenkai you mentioned is what pushed Cell to the SS2 limit, not that he attained SS2 and then managed to get an additional zenkai. I don't believe there is an additional boost beyond that. - Sep 19, 12 This shows that at the very least, he was in the same ball-park as Gohan's strength. If Gohan was truly at half strength when doing the beam struggle, this would suggest in a fair fight he'd have no trouble. I think he wished to break Gohan's spirit by beating him while not at full strength, in my opinion cell was probably going >50 but <75 when Gohan put the last of his energy into a Kamehameha. Leer cell super perfecto vs gohan ssj2, en Sin categoría. I've watched this a ton, and Gohan's power was basically divided in two, since he could only use one arm, and he still managed to win (albeit with a BIT of help). Piccolo later says Majin Vegeta was stronger than SSJ2 Gohan when he fought Super Perfect Cell. To put things into perspective, I'll only give a short list for Goku's power levels and a snapshot of how I got them. S+ refers to SS Goten + SS Trunks. My honest opinion is that Gohan would still dominate SPC. The answer is SSJ2 Gohan given how Super Perfect Cell couldn't even tank a Kamehameha from a weakened SSJ2 Gohan. When Cell came back stronger, he also came back at 100% energy/stamina. I feel Gohan wasn't ready to actually kill. A good point. Gohan, fully healed and with both arms still stomps Super Perfect Cell imo, the gap is just too big imo. I think Goku actually thought that he had taught Gohan to unleash it and that was why he was so eager to just let Gohan take care of it. This was obviously the last of his chi, as he went back to his base form and collapsed immediately after he killed Cell. The only time we actually have a legitimate measurement was wayyyy back to when Raditz visited Earth. I think Cell attained ssj2 when he came back due to his aura. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. The way I see it is the Cell is probably somewhat stronger than Gohan at their best. x24 refers to the low range of the GT calculation and 96x to the high range. I won't go into the details, but ultimately this is why I need to know where Super Perfect Cell falls. 2 - He is consciously holding back and worried about the planet and those around him. I mainly use the xBase Form unit as it makes things easier to track, but determining power level from them is easy enough so I track those too. Gohan was emotionally wrecked after Goku's sacrifice, as he believed he was responsible. So in a fight it might tip in his favor given all the possibilities of victory. There are no other senzu beans and Gohan has no fatigue or injuries. You then transfer this to each fighter being compared and then apply necessary multipliers. As for the PLs, I do indeed have a distinctive list for everyone, including the DB Super fighters (though most are assumptions). The list is HUGE and there's a lot of terminology, so I will only give a short snippet of what I have, just everything going up to the battle with Golden Frieza. Dangit - now I have to look stuff up to figure out this next part. In any case, here are the current power levels and multipliers I have for each of Goku's current forms and possible ranges. Not to mention any further zenkais or failed destructions would make Cell unstoppable. It changes how strong Piccolo is measured. This boost is what pushed him to his new level, in this case Super Perfect Cell. Dragon ball tends to hint at ability through aura alot and an aura's details can tell alot about a character or a form. Since he was at half strength was it so much that it put him over his power level at full health? - now I have to say Gohan hands down is stronger normally been and was. 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